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Re: F&W Star 37 Questions

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:16 pm
by RPinAZ
Kenneth, I've found your posts and have read them over to the point where I about have it committed to memory. I think I'm good to go but will probably have more questions once I get into it.
Thanks again

-RP

Re: F&W Star 37 Questions

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:56 am
by mtblah
Windy , you really are needed !

Re: F&W Star 37 Questions

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:47 am
by windybob
I enjoy helping. Thanks.

Re: F&W Star 37 Questions

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:07 am
by RPinAZ
I got most of the rust off of the upper turntable race and as you can see, there's a lot of divots from the balls. What would cause this on just one side? Tower wasn't level or something causing the gearbox to be out of balance - or just the nature of the beast?

Anyway, I'm going to fixture it on a faceplate on the lathe and see if I can true it up so that it'll turn smoothly.

-RP

Re: F&W Star 37 Questions

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:15 am
by windybob
If those are anything like Dempster turntables, they are hardened cast. Very difficult to machine.

Re: F&W Star 37 Questions

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:22 am
by Windcatcher530 Dan
Be careful turning turning down that bearing plate if you go to far the two plates might rub together. Just my thought !!

Re: F&W Star 37 Questions

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:27 am
by CTXmiller
Prevailing wind might cause more wear on one sideā€¦that is my theory.

Re: F&W Star 37 Questions

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:41 am
by RPinAZ
I'll know in a few minutes. I can turn the lips down a little as well to make sure that the only metal to metal contact is ball on race. If worse comes to worse, I'll get a new one but I figured it may be worth a try to save this one.

Thanks all
-RP

Re: F&W Star 37 Questions

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:45 am
by windybob
It is very common for Dempster turntables to drag. The bottom cup can be trimmed 1/8 or 3/16 to relieve the problem. If you decide to trim the lower part, if it's a cup, don't forget the inside circle also.

Re: F&W Star 37 Questions

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:45 pm
by RPinAZ
Well, it seemed to turn ok. The ball seat shaved off pretty easy. I pecked away at it with a button insert until most of the divots were gone and I had a good fit with a radius gage. I did shave some off from the inner lip but man oh man it was some hard stuff. I was using a carbide button insert and it was producing purple shavings and a few sparks but I managed to shave about about a sixteenth off. It left a mirror finish on cast, so it was pretty hard. When I put it together with the ball bearings I've got about an eighth inch clearance on the inner edges and a little less on the outer edge and it turns nice and smooth now. If I put some downward pressure on the outer edge of the upper race, I can get it to wobble a little bit, but I imagine that's what the centering spider/storm stay is supposed to prevent.

-RP