Hello all,
I have heard a couple times about the existence of a 300w 32 volt Wincharger plant (model 65?). I would imagine they are pretty much identical to the early Heavy Duty 6 and 12 volt plants with the 10 foot four leg roof mounted tower. I have never seen any photos or advertisement pages (maybe windchargermike can help with that?).
So do they really exist? or are they just 500w direct-drive or Heavy-Duty plants that have been mistaken for 300w 32 volt?
Roof mounted 32 volt winchargers?
Re: Roof mounted 32 volt winchargers?
Gabe, good question
Michael has the answer , most knowledgeable !
He has an outstanding collection of most every type built & they work.
Michael has the answer , most knowledgeable !
He has an outstanding collection of most every type built & they work.
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Re: Roof mounted 32 volt winchargers?
Yes Wincharger did make a 300W, model 3216. They do look like a heavy duty 6v so you’d have to find the model number stamped on the case or have a decent tail vane. I don’t think I’ve ever encountered one but someone sent me a photo of a tail so I know they existed…and I have a drawing. The tail vane indicates they were sold by Montgomery Ward probably about 1940 based on the drawings date. The drawing also shows it having a 6’ prop and 23” governor which is odd. Maybe so it could be mounted on a roof on an 5’ tower. Even the HD 6v machines had 7-1/2’ props and 32” governors. I doubt many were produced.
The 32V model “65” was equivalent to a 500W. It had a long 7-1/2” case distinguishable from the HD 6v, 12v and 300W 32v by having 2 bolts per field coil pole. The 65 designation stands for it capable of producing 65 kWhr/mo in nominal wind conditions. Peak power ratings were apparently misleading customers….still happens today. There was also a 6V model 65 but that number had nothing to do with energy produced per month.
The 32V model “65” was equivalent to a 500W. It had a long 7-1/2” case distinguishable from the HD 6v, 12v and 300W 32v by having 2 bolts per field coil pole. The 65 designation stands for it capable of producing 65 kWhr/mo in nominal wind conditions. Peak power ratings were apparently misleading customers….still happens today. There was also a 6V model 65 but that number had nothing to do with energy produced per month.
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Re: Roof mounted 32 volt winchargers?
Thanks for the print Mike; I did some searching online, I couldn't find a 1940 Montgomery Wards catalog but I did find the spring/summer 1940 SEARS catalog. It looks like these 300w plants were only advertised for one year, 1939 and 1941 catalogs only list the 500w and 1000w plants. I suspect they weren't very popular, as most people would have had room for a tower for the larger plants, and the lower power rating and higher cost gave essentially equal service as the 6 volt Heavy Duty plants. Likely why both information, and the actual generators are so elusive.
The small 300w plants seem like they would go on a roof just well as a Heavy Duty or radio charger; the 500w plants are a little too big and probably cause too much stress and noise in the structure. A 3216 would be a good addition to a Delco or other gas engine plant as a fuel saver, or in my case a good standby to replace solar in the wintertime.
Do you happen to have a generator specification table like the one you shared in my other thread that lists the 3216 plant? I suspect it would be just about impossible to find an original, however if I had the winding specs from the table I don't think it would be that hard to rewind a spare Heavy Duty generator for 32 volt charging and put together a working replica.
The small 300w plants seem like they would go on a roof just well as a Heavy Duty or radio charger; the 500w plants are a little too big and probably cause too much stress and noise in the structure. A 3216 would be a good addition to a Delco or other gas engine plant as a fuel saver, or in my case a good standby to replace solar in the wintertime.
Do you happen to have a generator specification table like the one you shared in my other thread that lists the 3216 plant? I suspect it would be just about impossible to find an original, however if I had the winding specs from the table I don't think it would be that hard to rewind a spare Heavy Duty generator for 32 volt charging and put together a working replica.
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Re: Roof mounted 32 volt winchargers?
Thanks for sharing the advertisement. I’ll see what I can find on winding specs. Here’s an interesting drawing that shows how the tail was trimmed for the Ward or Sears machine options. The 1000W also had a large Wincharger tail that was trimmed. Maybe you’ve seen the interesting paddle governors used on the Ward and Sears 500 and 1000W machines.
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