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Re: Samson
Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:26 pm
by Overkill
Jim it should be visible from I10 it will be on the north west side of I10 and 71 if you want to come check it out just let me know.
Michael I’m not sure as I have heard this one can do a 700 ft well. I have good water at 130ft and another band at 630ft I was going to defer that decision to the well company as it will be a new well drilled for this windmill. Do you have any advice for depth or size. I don’t need a lot of water I just want it operating.
Re: Samson
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:35 am
by hedgerow
Welcome Overkill
Looking forward to see the pictures of the process of the rebuild and set up. That is one impressive sized windmill.
Re: Samson
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:44 pm
by CTXmiller
Overkill - I’m the dummy end of the tape measure more often than not, so my inquiry as to water well depth was generic. I know a 20’ can pump from a great depth. Someone on here smarter than me would have to answer your depth/size question.
I am interested in photos of your progress on the rebuild and install of the 20’ Samson.
Michael
Re: Samson
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:44 pm
by Wind Charger Mike
Here are a couple of Samson pump tables from a Samson catalog. If you want to PM me your email I can send you the entire catalog. Lots of other useful info in it.
Re: Samson
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:42 pm
by Overkill
Mike I sent you the PM I have seen these charts but is it really true 12000 gallons per hour. Given that is max wind speed and a huge well but dang that’s a lot of water. Also I have seen these come in a-few different strokes so I’ll have to measure it once I return from Venezuela.
Re: Samson
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:09 am
by Wind Charger Mike
I'd call it a theoretical number. A 14" cylinder, 20" stroke, that's 13.4 gal/stroke at 15 strokes/min is 200 gal/min or 12,000 gal/hr but at less than 10psi. That's water park type flow rates but the starting torque on the mill would be huge. Obviously, you'll want a pretty small cylinder for your depth if you want flow in modest winds. Your stroke length is adjustable by moving the pitman rods to another hole in the driven gear. Now if you could adjust the stroke on the fly, that would be cool.
Re: Samson
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:17 pm
by kozzy
The 20 footer we are "restoring" was over a 530' well IIRC. Their issue was not the pumping but the wind. Cows get cranky if you have too many windless days and the water goes away so they scabbed in an engine powered pump jack for intermittent use. The same well is solar today.
Edit correction: 565 foot deep well.
Re: Samson
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:27 pm
by PaulV
Jake- how are you coming with the Samson?
Re: Samson
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:23 am
by Overkill
Paul,
I just got back in country, my dad and I was able to take it apart and haul it all to my place this past Saturday the 14th. I will start my build thread soon. The tower was missing a few of the cable cams. Do you know where I could get some or should I have new ones machined.
Re: Samson
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:19 pm
by windybob
Depends on what size they are, I may have some. Mine are off standard towers for 6 and 8 ft mills. A 20 footer tower may have larger ones and thicker cables? Not sure.
Take a measurement, and let me know how many you need.